Post by Sol P on Jul 10, 2005 10:49:14 GMT -5
This is going to appear in next weeks market update, if you have anything to add feel free and maybe we will put it in the next update too.
Sol:
I found your statement:
The thought behind every action is what counts the most, even though the action on its own amounts to nothing. Sol
.... to be most interesting. Would you be so kind as to explain it in a bit more depth and detail, as it implies or alludes to what sound like very complex, yet simple ideas - or thoughts.
For instance, what do you mean by thought, and what is the difference between thinking and thought and thoughts?
Also, why does action "on it's own" amount to nothing, and what is meant by "on it's own"?
If you have written anything on this subject in depth, I would be very interesting in reading it.
Lastly, you mentioned the use of esoteric cycles. What cycles are you referring to?
Thank You for your time, and hopefully for some of your thoughts on thought.
Well let’s start of with the statement. The reason the thought is more important is simple; every good deed starts off with a thought, so if you have good thoughts then sooner or later the deeds will follow. However this works just as well in the opposite direction; if one has bad thoughts for prolonged periods of time sooner or later the actions will follow. Let’s expand on this; if you have good thoughts you will produce a positive outcome on both your mind and body, consequently negative/bad thoughts will generate a negative outcome on your mind and body. You will notice that over 90% of individuals who have negative/bad thoughts are very miserable people (so in other words they have no life, misery and darkness is all they have to look forward too) and the opposite is true for people with positive or good thoughts or people whose thoughts deal with reality (sometime reality can be ugly but its how we chose to deal with it that matters the most).
If you notice so far I am only talking about the results to the individuals sounds selfish right; yes it is selfish. The reason is simple if you cannot first care about yourself then you are in no position to try to help or care for someone else. As they say good deeds first start at home and can then wonder out of the house. So if your house is not in order you can do no good and at most you can only perpetuate and add to the misery that is present. A little selfishness is good because only when you know how to treat yourself can you go out and try to help others. Remember the saying to “God helps those that help themselves” and we would like to add this part to it. God helps those that help themselves and the Devil those that try to help someone else (but we refer to it in the context of that you cannot help someone else if you are the one that needs help first; you can only do that after you have taken care of yourself)
So in essence the above statement deals with the fact
That good thought produce good results both mentally and physically and finally actually lead to a good deed sooner or later. The deed itself (action) is not that important because the benefit has already been conferred to you, the action is just a bonus for the recipient and to a smaller extent yourself. The most important person in this world is you and then comes everyone else. However once you have taken care of yourself you must try to help those that seek help and avoid those that look like they need help but refuse to seek it; these individuals will destroy you if you let them get into your world.
For instance, what do you mean by thought, and what is the difference between thinking and thought and thoughts?
Thought is the result of a process called thinking. If you cannot think you cannot generate a thought. The difference between thinking and thought is simple. Look at car assembly plant (this is thinking) and then look at the car that comes out of the assembly plant (this is the thought). If the plant is working fine then a perfectly assembled car will emerge on the other side, if the plant is not working very well then a rather shoddy car will emerge on the other hand and if the plant is not working at all nothing will emerge.
There are many people in this world (actually the majority 90% plus) who have the capability to think but actually produce nothing of value. They are like broken down car assembly plants; plenty of potential but in reality producing nothing and trying to take everything.
Take it one step further according to the Buddhists if you remove the thought then the thinker does not exist and that is exactly where the majority of the individuals are today. No thought therefore no existence.
Thoughts are just a mind that is multitasking; you are using your thinking facilities fully,
Also, why does action "on it's own" amount to nothing, and what is meant by "on it's own"?
I inadvertently covered this subject matter when I was dealing with your first question.
Lastly, you mentioned the use of esoteric cycles. What cycles are you referring to?
Esoteric cycles are one of our proprietary tools. Every system has a hidden order to it. The way one leads one’s life, the way one chooses to make ones fortune, the way one chooses one mate, friends and consequently the way the markets operate. This hidden order is basically a composition of cycles for the most part these cycles are invisible to the naked eye because the mind has not been trained to see them. In order to see such cycles in action one must first be extremely opened minded, secondly one must have a mind that is capable of imagining the unimaginable and finally someone who understands and believes that failure is the stepping stone to success (if you understand this you will automatically inherit two other very important principles which are patience and discipline). Everything in this world has an esoteric cycle even your own life.
In this world we are the most important individual out there. It is only after we learn to love, care and respect ourselves that we can go about trying to extend this benefit to others. The majority have not learned this that is why so many people use the phrase I am looking for love; to them we have one thing to say look within or live without.
Good thoughts generate positive outlooks; positive outlooks generate positive results on the body and mind and eventually lead to positive outcomes (action) and vice versa.
Without the thought the thinker does not exist (there is a little more to this concept but if we give you all the info your mind will never expand so you can work on this on your own). The thinker and the thought are two separate things once the thought is formed it can be separated from the thinker; the thinker is no longer necessary, hence the need to keep generating new thoughts.
Sol:
I found your statement:
The thought behind every action is what counts the most, even though the action on its own amounts to nothing. Sol
.... to be most interesting. Would you be so kind as to explain it in a bit more depth and detail, as it implies or alludes to what sound like very complex, yet simple ideas - or thoughts.
For instance, what do you mean by thought, and what is the difference between thinking and thought and thoughts?
Also, why does action "on it's own" amount to nothing, and what is meant by "on it's own"?
If you have written anything on this subject in depth, I would be very interesting in reading it.
Lastly, you mentioned the use of esoteric cycles. What cycles are you referring to?
Thank You for your time, and hopefully for some of your thoughts on thought.
Well let’s start of with the statement. The reason the thought is more important is simple; every good deed starts off with a thought, so if you have good thoughts then sooner or later the deeds will follow. However this works just as well in the opposite direction; if one has bad thoughts for prolonged periods of time sooner or later the actions will follow. Let’s expand on this; if you have good thoughts you will produce a positive outcome on both your mind and body, consequently negative/bad thoughts will generate a negative outcome on your mind and body. You will notice that over 90% of individuals who have negative/bad thoughts are very miserable people (so in other words they have no life, misery and darkness is all they have to look forward too) and the opposite is true for people with positive or good thoughts or people whose thoughts deal with reality (sometime reality can be ugly but its how we chose to deal with it that matters the most).
If you notice so far I am only talking about the results to the individuals sounds selfish right; yes it is selfish. The reason is simple if you cannot first care about yourself then you are in no position to try to help or care for someone else. As they say good deeds first start at home and can then wonder out of the house. So if your house is not in order you can do no good and at most you can only perpetuate and add to the misery that is present. A little selfishness is good because only when you know how to treat yourself can you go out and try to help others. Remember the saying to “God helps those that help themselves” and we would like to add this part to it. God helps those that help themselves and the Devil those that try to help someone else (but we refer to it in the context of that you cannot help someone else if you are the one that needs help first; you can only do that after you have taken care of yourself)
So in essence the above statement deals with the fact
That good thought produce good results both mentally and physically and finally actually lead to a good deed sooner or later. The deed itself (action) is not that important because the benefit has already been conferred to you, the action is just a bonus for the recipient and to a smaller extent yourself. The most important person in this world is you and then comes everyone else. However once you have taken care of yourself you must try to help those that seek help and avoid those that look like they need help but refuse to seek it; these individuals will destroy you if you let them get into your world.
For instance, what do you mean by thought, and what is the difference between thinking and thought and thoughts?
Thought is the result of a process called thinking. If you cannot think you cannot generate a thought. The difference between thinking and thought is simple. Look at car assembly plant (this is thinking) and then look at the car that comes out of the assembly plant (this is the thought). If the plant is working fine then a perfectly assembled car will emerge on the other side, if the plant is not working very well then a rather shoddy car will emerge on the other hand and if the plant is not working at all nothing will emerge.
There are many people in this world (actually the majority 90% plus) who have the capability to think but actually produce nothing of value. They are like broken down car assembly plants; plenty of potential but in reality producing nothing and trying to take everything.
Take it one step further according to the Buddhists if you remove the thought then the thinker does not exist and that is exactly where the majority of the individuals are today. No thought therefore no existence.
Thoughts are just a mind that is multitasking; you are using your thinking facilities fully,
Also, why does action "on it's own" amount to nothing, and what is meant by "on it's own"?
I inadvertently covered this subject matter when I was dealing with your first question.
Lastly, you mentioned the use of esoteric cycles. What cycles are you referring to?
Esoteric cycles are one of our proprietary tools. Every system has a hidden order to it. The way one leads one’s life, the way one chooses to make ones fortune, the way one chooses one mate, friends and consequently the way the markets operate. This hidden order is basically a composition of cycles for the most part these cycles are invisible to the naked eye because the mind has not been trained to see them. In order to see such cycles in action one must first be extremely opened minded, secondly one must have a mind that is capable of imagining the unimaginable and finally someone who understands and believes that failure is the stepping stone to success (if you understand this you will automatically inherit two other very important principles which are patience and discipline). Everything in this world has an esoteric cycle even your own life.
To summarise
In this world we are the most important individual out there. It is only after we learn to love, care and respect ourselves that we can go about trying to extend this benefit to others. The majority have not learned this that is why so many people use the phrase I am looking for love; to them we have one thing to say look within or live without.
Good thoughts generate positive outlooks; positive outlooks generate positive results on the body and mind and eventually lead to positive outcomes (action) and vice versa.
Without the thought the thinker does not exist (there is a little more to this concept but if we give you all the info your mind will never expand so you can work on this on your own). The thinker and the thought are two separate things once the thought is formed it can be separated from the thinker; the thinker is no longer necessary, hence the need to keep generating new thoughts.