We are programmed to lose

[Sol P]

If one takes time to evaluate the above statment and sit back and reflect on it, you will see that most of us have a secret desire to lose.

Think about it as soon as your stock starts to go up, you get nervous and think about bailing out, but when you stock is going lower and lower you buy the buy and hold mumbo jumbo, well why not do the same thing when its going up. Why is it that it so easy to widen the stops and take higher and higher loses when the stock is going down then when its going up ;D

[Chuck]

Hi Sol,

I agree with you 1000%, and this does not apply only to investing. I have seen time and time again people become more and more miserable as they win, but when they lose, they immediately seek out the company of other losers and have a grand old time sharing their stories over a beer. This is mostly subconscious, so people do not see it.

The important question I feel is, who is programming us to lose and why? And what is the connection between being progammed to lose and the fact , that people in mass, are always wrong?

Chuck

[Sol P]

Who programs us to lose. Well that question will lead us to a very deep rabit hole. So lets start with the outlets of programing. It starts at home as our parents were programed themselves and so they try to instil beliefs and values they think are right into us.

Nursery school does the same. So does high school and college. At all Levels we are taught indirectly that the individual is not important, but that the group is more important. Thats how the concept of ASk not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country mumbo jumbo comes from

If we lose respect for ourselves, we naturally seek out others to try to get it back or at least find others who have none to.

lack of respect is part of the desire to lose syndrome. The programing is done to preserve the rules that not only in the financial markets but in all aspects of life, 90% of the population is bled while 10% get all the benefits.

I agree with your view that many people feel bad when they win and actually have a great time when they lose and can join their fellow mates

the reason is rather simple, when you come out of the pack that has been losing constantly you have no company, you are alone in the winners circle. all your buddies are still in the losers circle. It takes a strong person to be able to deal with this loneliness and start looking for new friends and associates.

winning is lonely as only 10% or less of the population fall into this category, while losers always have company and so are not so keen to break out and join the winners circle

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Sol's reply above is worth this month's entire subscription

[Andre Wahlgren]

This is my first time ever posting to a forum. I am always looking to expand my knowledge and understanding. How do we "de-program"? I want to grow and understand more as well as help others do the same.

Andre

[freethinker]

Andre said:

This is my first time ever posting to a forum. I am always looking to expand my knowledge and understanding. How do we "de-program"? I want to grow and understand more as well as help others do the same.

Andre

thinking for yourself.

start by asking yourself a lot of introspective questions, like why do i think that? why do i want that? what is good for me? why am I upset? why am I happy?

then move on to asking who or what influenced those thoughts and why.

[Sol P]

Free thinker makes some good points. As always the main part of any given problem is ones ability to identify it. Once you have identified the problem you have taken care of more then 50% of the solution.

Deprogramming is not something you can achieve overnight. one of the hardest parts of deprogramming is the tough choice one has to face of eliminating certain friends and family members from ones circle. as they say tell me who your friends are and I will tell you are take it one step further show me who your family and i will show you who you will be 10 years from today.

One of the worst agents are close friends and family members. if they seem to think everything is fine and they don't want to move forward then you have to let them go; this why winning becomes a lonely experience and this is why its so hard for the majority. They don't have the stomach to relinquish old associates and family members and attempt to forge new friendships and associations.

There is so much more to do but the great thing is that when you start you automatically begin to see the picture and you automatically learn the necessary steps you have to take to move away from the mass mindset. the real problem or question is will you actually attempt to put the solution into action or sit there hoping that the problem goes away on its own?

[zumabillaolcom]

Sol,

You make some very cogent points. The best advice I can add is to consciously strive to be an observer and not a participant when it comes to analyzing emotional reactions to markets, trades, mass media programming, political diatribe, cultural mindwashing. In other words, the way to detach oneself from deprogramming is to watch what is happening as if one is a reporter/observer, even if you are the one that is being subjected to the programming. The fact is, we see 3000 advertising images per day and we are unconsciously absorbing images and subliminal audio all the time. If one can get to the point where we can observe dispassionately what is happening, it is the first step to pulling the rip cord and establishing another reality of existence.

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